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Post by Miege22 on Jul 30, 2015 12:34:35 GMT -5
There has been a lot of discussion recently about reducing the roster size, enough so that I'd like to put it to a vote. Please note that any decision made here will not go into effect for the 2016-2017 season. Here are the options: 1. DECREASE ROSTER SIZE Self-explanatory. Starting with the 2016-2017 season, we will cut two roster spots. Teams will only be allowed to carry 12 active players. There will continue to be 1 IR spot. The D-League will cease to exist 2. THREE-YEAR PLAN TO DECREASE To quote Richardson: One idea to reduce roster size would be (starting next offseason) to go to a 12-man active roster with 2 Inactive Reserve spots (14 players total). Players can be placed on IR for any reason, but must remain on IR for at least 1 week. We could implement that next year and see how it goes. Then, in year 2, we reduce rosters to 13 (11 active, 2 IR spots). Then two years from now (year 3), we go to a 10-man rotation with 2 IR spots (12 man roster). It has to be a progression to phase out existing contracts on rosters and that sort of thing. 3. DECREASE ROSTER SIZE AND CAP An addendum to #2: We could gradually decrease it by $1M per season (starting next year) for the next 5 years until we hit $60M. OR, if this is in fact a 3 year plan, do a $1M decrease next year, $2M in year two, $2M in year three. 4. DO NOTHING Things are fine. Totally fine. Thoughts?
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Post by MemphisGM on Jul 30, 2015 13:19:45 GMT -5
I seemed to have missed this discussion, what is the reason for reducing the roster?
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Post by Tampa Bay Bull Sharks on Jul 30, 2015 15:53:30 GMT -5
I seemed to have missed this discussion, what is the reason for reducing the roster? Good question. There are a few reasons: 1) 14 roster spots with a $65M salary cap is exorbitant for a 20 team league. 2) We have shifted to fewer re-signs than previous years and this will help dwindle those franchise crippling re-sign mistakes. 3) The FA market is terribly weak every year. This will help increase the quality of players on the market, thus creating more competition across the league. I had proposed the 3-year plan because it is a gradual transition that all owners can adapt to over the next few years. Of course, each owner has a chance to vote now on what they'd like to see happen.
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Post by MemphisGM on Jul 30, 2015 16:22:30 GMT -5
I think the less resigns has a far bigger impact on FA quality than reducing the roster size, and I think that was a good move (though it would have been nice to know it in advance...). I don't think reducing the roster changes a whole lot, only less room to stash prospects that need more time to develop. But I guess if it doesn't change a lot there's not much objection to it either.
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Post by Miege22 on Jul 30, 2015 17:06:59 GMT -5
I think the less resigns has a far bigger impact on FA quality than reducing the roster size, and I think that was a good move (though it would have been nice to know it in advance...). I don't think reducing the roster changes a whole lot, only less room to stash prospects that need more time to develop. But I guess if it doesn't change a lot there's not much objection to it either. This is why I opened it up to the rest of the league. I want all owners to have input on this decision
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Post by studiscus(Vegas) on Jul 30, 2015 18:35:45 GMT -5
I voted no. But it seems change is inevitable. I would hope we as owners would get at least a season to adjust but feel the 3 year plan is a bit excessive. Not a bad plan just think we give the league an announcement that things will change after this season and implement accordingly. If we loose 2 spots I am in favor of 1 IR spot added. Anyone can be put on IR at any time but must remain for at least 7 days.
My .02
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Post by studiscus(Vegas) on Jul 30, 2015 18:37:50 GMT -5
In summation, #1.
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Post by moltreszwarriors on Jul 30, 2015 19:13:36 GMT -5
I feel like reducing the roster would reduce parity. While there would now be more free agents, it's not like great players would suddenly become free agents. The free agents would just be replacement-level, like now, except slightly better.
This would mean that if you are a good team, a larger portion of your team would be good, and you would have less of those lower-quality barely-rosterable players. I don't really see the point in reducing roster size. It will just amplify the differences between the best players on the best teams.
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Post by Portland Trail Blazers on Jul 30, 2015 19:19:22 GMT -5
Does voting end when everyone votes? I want to vote but I'm not sure yet what I think should happen, since I'm new I'd like to hear as many opinions on this topic as I can before voting.
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jul 30, 2015 19:42:19 GMT -5
I think the reduction to 3 resigns is huge. It made me just walk away from Tobias Harris. No way he worked with only 3 resigns. I think we should see how this effects things before reducing rosters. Maybe go ahead & eliminate the D-League
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Post by Kots (Colorado GM) on Jul 30, 2015 19:56:21 GMT -5
If cutting the roster by 2 spots in 2016-17 is the eventual winner. What happens if your roster is full at this time. Does it mean you will have to invoke cap hits?
The progression plan makes more sense to allow for the trimming of rosters imo
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Post by fernans (MIAMI HEAT) on Jul 30, 2015 20:04:31 GMT -5
I think the reduction to 3 resigns is huge. It made me just walk away from Tobias Harris. No way he worked with only 3 resigns. I think we should see how this effects things before reducing rosters. Maybe go ahead & eliminate the D-League You're right. The more I think of it, the more I think we should do is just eliminate the D-League this year and leave it at 14 players with 1 season long IR as we currently have it. If you want to sign a "d-league" type player, just sign him to your active 14. I do agree that the 3 resigns will be huge. It is one of the main reasons why I traded Oladipo.
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Post by Tampa Bay Bull Sharks on Jul 30, 2015 20:45:55 GMT -5
The progression plan would eliminate the d league this year. It would be an easier transition into a smaller roster size rather than just an abrupt reduction.
Further, I hear what you guys are saying, but this is good dialogue. This reduction provokes thought and requires good management direction. It's going to make owners build their teams for the future with a specific strategy in mind.
The other suggestion I had made with the reduction plan would be to lower the cap to $60M (gradually) over the next 3 years. $65M is too much for 20 teams in my opinion.
I think it'll be cool to see everyone evolve their own plan.
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Post by studiscus(Vegas) on Jul 30, 2015 20:58:20 GMT -5
No change or get rid of the d league.. I agree have to see how the resign reduction goes. I know I will have to let a few good players go in fa. That change alone is going to reshape FA as we know it. Im excited for FA because of the extra talent that will be available.
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Post by Toronto Raptors on Jul 30, 2015 21:00:29 GMT -5
There would obviously be allowed roster cuts with salary forgiveness no other way to do it if we decide to cut
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