Post by moltreszwarriors on Jul 5, 2013 18:44:27 GMT -5
To elaborate: The Warriors just signed Iguodola, giving up 2 first-rounders, the expiring contracts of Jefferson and Biedrins, and Brandon Rush. Their wing rotation looked perfect for next year. Barnes and Thompson building on last year and Rush coming back after the torn ACL and returning to being a lockdown perimeter defender. Instead, they gave away Rush and two-first picks, one next year in the best draft since 2003 and one in 2017 when the Warriors may have returned to the basement already. Iguodola is slightly better at defense than Rush and much better at offense and is admittedly more healthy, but Rush has already shown that he fits in with this particular group. Obviously, in the short term, adding Iguodola makes them better, but they are stunting the development of Barnes and jeopardizing the thing that made them most successful in the playoffs in the first place: shooting. Barnes is a better shooter than Iguodola already and this could kill their spacing. Plus, it means the bench will be weaker because they can't get Jack and Landry back now. The Warriors are barely better now and worse in the future.
Atlanta Hawks 4 years, $24 million for Kyle Korver on a 6-8 seed in the East. Not smart.
Charlotte Bobcats The Bobcats actually looked to be in pretty decent shape. Walker at PG, Henderson will probably be back, MKG at SF, and now Zeller to play PF. Of course, they would probably be marginally better next year and still suck enough to probably get a top-5 pick in the best draft since 2003, a draft which could be as good at the top as that one was. So, they sign Al Jefferson. Now they will suck slightly less, probably barely miss the playoffs, and not get anyone good in the draft. Wrong year to stop tanking.
Houston Rockets Well, they got Howard for some reason. So, Asik, one of the 5 best centers defensively in the league, is gone. Howard is only marginally better defensively, especially with his injury, which he may never recover from. The bigger difference is that Howard actually has an offensive game. Despite the price increase, this move alone would make the Rockets better, despite the headache they would get. Except Howard wanted an offense centered around him. Since he signed in Houston, he must have been promised that. So, touches go away from Harden, which means the improvement won't be as much as expected. However, it looks like they also want to dump Lin to get Smith, which is mostly just stupid financially. Plus they dumped their bench to get Howard. So the Rockets will be better, but I still don't see them coming close to winning any titles.
Only people who seem to know what they are doing are the Celtics.
Are you on drugs? Just kidding you make some valid points though I don't agree with all. Good enough to bring up some discussion!
Iggy is a lot better than Rush. I don't know what Rush you're looking at, and though he's a good defender, he's just not the player Iguodala is. Besides better defense, offense and health he's also much more versatile and experienced. And he's not a bad shooter or something, and they still got Curry and Klay so floor spacing won't be an issue for them. Also financially, they dumped 24 million and signed Iggy to a 12million/year deal, that saves money right? And while I agree the draft next year is great, there still won't be that much great talents outside the lottery, where GSW will pick.
I agree Korver got overpaid, as did Budinger, Redick and possibly Splitter.
The Bobcats will still suck, don't worry about that. Al Jef isn't gonna change that. They might score a couple more points but he's not a good defender. Though, with teams like Boston and Philly blowing things up, staying where you are actually makes you better already.
And while Asik is a good defender, I don't think D12 is just marginally better. He makes offenses adapt to him. Howard does have an offensive game, but it also still needs work. And while he commands touches, that's actually a good thing so Harden won't have to carry the whole load anymore, and he'll be able to select better shots. Howard opens things up for the perimeter, where Houston is already deadly. And while they might not be the favorite to win, you need to take chances to win a championship, and it's almost never financially smart since you need to invest money in it.
Last Edit: Jul 6, 2013 3:40:27 GMT -5 by MemphisGM
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Post by moltreszwarriors on Jul 6, 2013 3:19:34 GMT -5
Iggy is a terrific defensive player, All First Team Defense good. But Rush was also just incredible defensively, so the gap isn't as big as it looks at first glance defensively. If Rush is healthy last year, there's a pretty good chance the Warriors beat the Spurs too. People forget how close that series was, especially with an injured Steph. And who knows, the Heat are below average at defending 3s. And offensively, while Iggy is clearly much better, he still averaged 13-5-5 in the highest-scoring fastest-paced offense in the league. He's not the player he was in Philly.
A.) I hate Dwight Howard. Can't stand the guy, especially when I heard yesterday he had committed to the Rockets then told the Lakers he was "50/50" on returning, only to spurn them to commit to the Rockets 45 minutes later. What a d-bag. Enough about him.
B.) What are the Bobcats and Hawks doing? The Bobcats put themselves in prime position for the 2014 draft which is just as good as the 2003 one, if we are comparing. I understand what MJ and the Bobcats are trying to do by bringing in a guy to market the team around, but this wasn't the year. Alas, I see the Bobcats still only winning 30-35 games or so. As for the Hawks, you're obviously turning the team over with the trade of Joe Johnson last year and the departure of Josh Smith. Then you bringing back Ashton Kutcher look alike Kyle Korver for $24 million?!? I also don't understand the Millsap signing if the Hawks are serious about wanting Asik, Marcus Morris, and others in a sign and trade for Josh Smith. That puts the Hawks right where they were before: mediocrity in the Eastern Conference.
C.) As a Celtics fan just felt I should address the state of the franchise. The city of Boston is beyond in outrage over the trading and rebuilding of the Celtics, but personally, I LOVE what they are doing. Next year they have 2 picks in the draft, one that will be bottom 2/3 and another that will be top 5. I only see the Jazz, Suns, Kings, and 76ers as being worse than the C's right now. Chad Ford said the other day tha this years top 6 prospects would have gone 1-6 and then Bennett would have been the 7th, Oladipo the 8th, etc. Good year for the Celtics to blow it up.
D.) The Warriors have made some head scratching moves. Yes, they wanted cap space for D12, but why deal away 2 first rounders, Biedrins, and Jefferson for basically nothing...? Iggy was an ok signing but they already have Barnes af Thompson as wing players.
i know it was not a free agent signing, but since i am a knicks fan i thought i should bring up Andrea Bargnani. I get the wanting of a power forward but the knicks need to stop trading away every draft pick they can.
Post by moltreszwarriors on Jul 6, 2013 13:48:40 GMT -5
As a Houston fan, I'm beginning to seriously consider finding another team to be a fan of because Morey is being un-Morey like. He's basically trying to make another Big 3 to compete with Miami by attempting to land Josh Smith also, except his Big 3 would be much worse. He's the sabermetrics GM supposedly, but who is less sabermetric friendly than Smith? That guy takes so many bad shots. That team is just getting rid of everyone I like and replacing them with assholes. I would personally rather have Asik than Howard because he is a great low-maintenance player who defends and rebounds well. His only major problem was when people Hack-a Shaqed him, and Howard is worse at free throws than Asik. Harden is going to be very sad in Houston soon.
I loved the Iggy move. The Warriors, as its been pointed out, were very close to beating the Spurs as well. Now you seriously upgrade the SF spot AND shed some dead salary? That's a fantastic move.
In regard to Dwight. I hate him too, but I think the media should be blamed in this case. We heard through a "source" that he was going to Houston, but that was almost immediately rebuked. Dwight was actually trying to do the honorable thing by letting the Lakers know he wasn't coming back, but someone in his inner circle can't keep their mouth shut. This has more to do with his leaky inner circle and the media than it does Dwight.
Miege22: Had to start spending my own money on them haha
Jul 28, 2018 13:58:53 GMT -5
teefbe: Since Minny decided quickly on re=signs and player options are we going to move up free agency like last year or it stays on 12th?
Jul 30, 2018 16:15:50 GMT -5
Miege22: I've created a poll on the topic. Moving up FA is harder to do than the draft because it impacts everyone. If even one owner is not on board with moving it up, we'll leave it to start on the 12t
Jul 30, 2018 16:34:19 GMT -5
Cleveland Cavaliers: Are you a contender? Do you need another solid contributor for your squad on literally the cheapest deal possible? Well you're in luck, Allen Crabbe is your man! For the low cost of a 2019 draft pick that won't be high cuz you're a contender
Aug 1, 2018 12:45:56 GMT -5
Cleveland Cavaliers: This offer will only be available for like the next 8 hours or some shit so act now!
Aug 1, 2018 12:46:29 GMT -5
Cleveland Cavaliers: Also Dewayne Dedmon $250,000 ('20) available for a pick
Aug 1, 2018 15:20:04 GMT -5
HawkEye: Free Boban!!!
Oct 18, 2018 7:13:03 GMT -5
teefbe: crazy week1 matchup between me and Seattle
Oct 21, 2018 18:52:56 GMT -5
HawkEye: I won 5-4 vs Colorado by only .02% of FT%
Oct 22, 2018 7:13:22 GMT -5
HawkEye: Correction, it's .2% or .002 of FT%
Oct 22, 2018 7:21:25 GMT -5
zephyr: does anyone know when espn is going to add position eligibility?
Nov 12, 2018 17:22:43 GMT -5
Miege22: They added PG eligibility for Bryn Forbes last week. I think they just kind of do it gradually
Nov 12, 2018 19:07:31 GMT -5
zephyr: great -- thanks!
Nov 13, 2018 8:41:24 GMT -5
zephyr: landry shamet's at 21.1 mpg for the season -- does that mean toronto has to make a decision on activating him from d-league?
Nov 27, 2018 11:30:31 GMT -5
Miege22: I think we need to go a little longer on the d-league signees, all of them, this year. 20 games isnt' a huge sample size, and a few low or no minute games can drastically impact those averages.
Nov 27, 2018 11:38:06 GMT -5
Miege22: I don't think a decision needs to be made until the last week of our season.
Nov 27, 2018 11:38:18 GMT -5