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Post by Miege22 on Jan 13, 2021 12:10:18 GMT -5
does the waived cap hit apply when releasing a covid signed player when the original player becomes eligible and active again? No. There would be no cap hit because you are starting with a fixed pool of money and the timeframe for that player only lasts until the COVID impacted player returns.
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Post by Sir Poopy, Duke of Poop on Jan 13, 2021 12:56:16 GMT -5
I have done my due diligence and am announcing that I have changed my vote to yes! Restore balance to the league of fairness
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Post by teefbe on Jan 13, 2021 13:07:52 GMT -5
I'll admit I didn't look at this thoroughly, but I gave it some thought and I'm torn.
On one hand I agree that it's been a disaster and we should help out teams that struggle the most. On the other hand though, if you're missing Tatum,Booker and Doncic like OKC is right now, two bums from this FA pool won't do much for you and to install this complicated procedure with additional money and stuff, I just don't think it's worth it.
All in all, I'm in favor of opening trading immediately for the offseason FAs, shortening the waiting period to 10days for guys signed from this moment and I also like adding two COVID-IR spots, but use your own cap space. I don't see reasons to give every team additional 2 million (and I say it as a guy that has like $25000 left on my books). If a guy comes back from COVID-IR you either drop the player that you signed and get your cap space back or you drop someone else.
I'll catch up soon on the whole thread to see if you guys covered this, for now I'm holding off on voting.
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Post by Miege22 on Jan 13, 2021 13:17:33 GMT -5
I should also add that the reason for the additional money and treating the FA bids as separate from regular bids is I don't think myself or the mods really want to keep track of all the additional cap hits this would lead to. Just treating all bidding, regular and COVID, the same just increases the number of cap hits that are going to arise. Some teams are good at keeping track of their own stuff, and some aren't (which, we are going to have revisit in the off-season I think. We need a uniform way to account for cap hits). I don't want to have to deal with dozens of extra cap hits springing up because these COVID signings are being signed and waived every week.
Keeping it totally separate, with its own pool (and, most importantly, no cap hits), makes by far the most sense.
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Post by fernans (MIAMI HEAT) on Jan 13, 2021 16:57:02 GMT -5
I should also add that the reason for the additional money and treating the FA bids as separate from regular bids is I don't think myself or the mods really want to keep track of all the additional cap hits this would lead to. Just treating all bidding, regular and COVID, the same just increases the number of cap hits that are going to arise. Some teams are good at keeping track of their own stuff, and some aren't (which, we are going to have revisit in the off-season I think. We need a uniform way to account for cap hits). I don't want to have to deal with dozens of extra cap hits springing up because these COVID signings are being signed and waived every week. Keeping it totally separate, with its own pool (and, most importantly, no cap hits), makes by far the most sense. not sure how to bold on mobile but i think we need a uniform roster page too. everyone’s doesn’t have to be the same, but at least include the same info on the main page.
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Post by fernans (MIAMI HEAT) on Jan 13, 2021 17:15:28 GMT -5
btw haven’t written this off yet just no real time to read and digest
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Post by fernans (MIAMI HEAT) on Jan 13, 2021 21:50:28 GMT -5
ok let me see if i understand this..
as written:
-every team gets $2m max -the $2m can be used to sign "temporary" player(s) to cover in case of covid -typical free agent bidding rules apply except this will be for one year only and waivers do not count -bidding must state for a covid replacement player or similar and player can remain on team temporary until regular rostered player comes off protocol (covid ir) or through end of season if roster spot is available -cannot bid on a covid temporary player of you do not have a regular rostered player on covid protocol (covid ir)
am i missing anything? confirmation please?
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Post by Miege22 on Jan 13, 2021 22:03:12 GMT -5
ok let me see if i understand this.. as written: -every team gets $2m max Yes. Yes. No. There would be no points as these players can only be signed for "this year." I put this year in quotes because they can only be rostered as long as someone is on COVID IR. Also the clock will only be 12 hours per bid to expedite the process. There are no waivers. The player comes off your roster when the COVID IR player returns. They can only be on the roster as long as someone is on COVID IR. Yes. Answered.
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Post by crossover (Golden St. GM) on Jan 13, 2021 22:04:26 GMT -5
I hope some more GM's warm up to this proposal, at the very least some covid I.R. spots.
It is definitely not fun when your team comes down with covid or contact tracing.
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Post by fernans (MIAMI HEAT) on Jan 13, 2021 22:21:49 GMT -5
sometimes it helps me to write it out in my own words lol..
this is a unique league because no one gets paid to run it and its not for money. i like to keep things simple because this is legit volunteer work, and some of the fellas here put in a shitload of time, something i personally dont have much of. i personally dont like to add complication to this league because of that. but if miege feels comfortable with the added work this may bring on, then i'm cool with it.
the clarification i needed was exactly when a covid replacement player could actually be bid on. if a replacement player can only be bid on while a team rostered player is on covid IR, and then must be dropped back down to the free agency pool after said team rostered player returns from covid IR, then that is ok with me.
i'll vote yes.
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Post by Tampa Bay Bull Sharks on Jan 13, 2021 22:49:38 GMT -5
sometimes it helps me to write it out in my own words lol.. this is a unique league because no one gets paid to run it and its not for money. i like to keep things simple because this is legit volunteer work, and some of the fellas here put in a shitload of time, something i personally dont have much of. i personally dont like to add complication to this league because of that. but if miege feels comfortable with the added work this may bring on, then i'm cool with it. the clarification i needed was exactly when a covid replacement player could actually be bid on. if a replacement player can only be bid on while a team rostered player is on covid IR, and then must be dropped back down to the free agency pool after said team rostered player returns from covid IR, then that is ok with me. i'll vote yes. While we don’t play for money, there is generally a t-shirt for the champion. And that’s not a joke. This actually reminds me...I owe Miege a shirt from his last ship
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Post by Miege22 on Jan 13, 2021 23:04:38 GMT -5
Yeah, Houston should have a shirt, I think.
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Post by Sir Poopy, Duke of Poop on Jan 13, 2021 23:27:57 GMT -5
sometimes it helps me to write it out in my own words lol.. this is a unique league because no one gets paid to run it and its not for money. i like to keep things simple because this is legit volunteer work, and some of the fellas here put in a shitload of time, something i personally dont have much of. i personally dont like to add complication to this league because of that. but if miege feels comfortable with the added work this may bring on, then i'm cool with it. the clarification i needed was exactly when a covid replacement player could actually be bid on. if a replacement player can only be bid on while a team rostered player is on covid IR, and then must be dropped back down to the free agency pool after said team rostered player returns from covid IR, then that is ok with me. i'll vote yes. While we don’t play for money, there is generally a t-shirt for the champion. And that’s not a joke. This actually reminds me...I owe Miege a shirt from his last ship Everyone they are lying! I have won the league multiple times and have never once received a shirt!
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Post by Miege22 on Jan 13, 2021 23:53:07 GMT -5
You got a shirt for winning the other league I ran.
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Post by Miege22 on Jan 13, 2021 23:53:35 GMT -5
Or are you forgetting about the Timberpuppies???
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